True Woman 101 - Week 1: Gender Matters

With Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth, Dannah Gresh, Erin Davis, Mary Kassian and Holly Elliff

The Creator knows how and why He created us male and female and the proper order and fit of our lives. It's His design.

About the Speakers

Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth

Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth

Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth has touched the lives of millions of women through two nationally syndicated radio programs heard each day—Revive Our Hearts and Seeking Him. Her books have …

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Dannah Gresh

Dannah Gresh

Dannah Gresh is the co-host of Revive Our Hearts podcast and the founder of True Girl, a ministry dedicated to providing tools to help moms and grandmas disciple their 7–12-year-old …

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Erin Davis

Erin Davis

Erin Davis is married to her high school sweetheart, Jason, and together they parent four energetic boys on their small farm in the midwest. She is the author of more …

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Mary Kassian

Mary Kassian

Mary Kassian is an award-winning author, an internationally renowned speaker, and a frequent guest on Revive Our Hearts. She has written more than a dozen books and Bible studies …

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Holly Elliff

Holly Elliff

Holly has been married to her high school sweetheart, Bill, for nearly fifty years. She has been a pastor's wife since she was twenty and has eight married children and …

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Nancy: A number of our friends are going to be joining us for these True Woman Table Talk discussions.

Mary: Girlfriend time.

Nancy: Let me introduce you to the three guests who are with us today. On Mary’s left is Erin Davis. Erin is a wife and mom of two little ones. We have women in different seasons of life. I love that.

Mary, you have young adult sons, and Erin, you have little ones.

Erin Davis: Very little, yes.

Nancy: You’re our (I don’t want to say token, because that sounds like it’s not important), but we needed a younger woman. 

Erin: I’ll take it if you’re going to tell them I’m young.

Nancy: Enjoy it while you have it, because, as we’ve all learned, it doesn’t last.

Mary: It doesn’t last.

Nancy: But you have such a heart for teenagers, for young women. You’re passionate about that, and you’ve helped us be passionate about it, too.

Erin: That’s good, yes.

Nancy: And so Erin Davis, and then in the middle, Holly Elliff. Holly and I go back a long ways. We’re longtime friends, sisters, and you have eight children and six grandchildren.

Holly Elliff: I do.

Nancy: Then to my right is Dannah Gresh. Dannah, you have teenagers and young adult children, kind of in that age range.

Dannah Gresh: I still call them my babies. They’re always your babies.

Nancy: We had the privilege of writing together, Lies Young Women Believe. And what a journey that has been. I’ve learned so much from you and your heart for teens. And, by the way, what’s so neat about this gathering is that the Lord used you when Erin was a teenager.

Erin: That’s right. Dannah was my mentor when I was fifteen.

Nancy: Yes. And now you’re mentoring other young women, and we just see this whole thing of the beauty of true womanhood and legacy.

Now, I’m not married, and I’ve never had children, but all you ladies are moms. Can you remember, when you had that first child, did you all want to know whether it was a boy or girl? Did you find out?

Mary: There was no option when I had my kids.

Holly: When Mary and I had our first kids, probably . . .

Nancy: Okay, you’re dating yourselves. 

Mary: Okay . . . back in the day.

Holly: Back in the day when I was young. So the first half of my children, I didn’t know what was coming.

Mary: They never even did ultrasounds.

Holly: No. But the second half of my children, technology had caught up. So the first four I didn’t know. The last four I did know what I was having.

Mary: Well, I just got used to hearing, "It’s a boy!" "It’s a boy!" "It’s a boy!"

Nancy: Did you find out before your first was born?

Dannah: I did not want to know. I love anticipation.

Nancy: You wanted to know sooner or later—just not sooner.

Dannah: Yes. I wanted to know when that baby was in my arms, and I didn’t know until then. So that was fine.

Nancy: How about you, Erin?

Erin: I didn’t want to know. I had to find out with my first because he had a little medical thing, and so we found out with him. We were thrilled that he was a boy. But with my second, I was determined not to find out. So we had written in our birth plan, “No one can tell Erin except Jason.”

There were people in the waiting room. My aunt had a blue blanket and a pink blanket because they were waiting. Then I had the baby, and my husband’s eyes filled with tears. I’ll never forget it. He said, “It’s another boy!” I was so excited!

Nancy: Well, …

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