Revive Our Hearts Podcast

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Designed and Defined by God

Dannah Gresh: For Laura Perry, detransitioning from living as a man back to being the woman God created her to be was a gradual process. She says the Scripture was crucial in that journey.

Laura Perry: And so, as God was pouring His Word into me, I was getting more and more convicted. I realized after a while that I couldn’t just twist one or two verses to kind of fit whatever I believed. The whole Bible that was telling me that I couldn’t be transgender!

Dannah: This is the Revive Our Hearts podcast with Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth, co-author of True Woman 101: Divine Design, for June 3, 2021. I’m Dannah Gresh.

Nancy DeMoss Wolgemuth: These days, you’re probably seeing terms like “gender dysphoria” and “transgenderism” showing up a lot in your social media and your news feeds. As we see those terms, it’s easy to forget that there …

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About the Teacher

Dannah Gresh

Dannah Gresh

When Dannah Gresh was eight years old, she began praying that God would use her as a Bible teacher for “the nations.” When she sees the flags of many countries waving at a Revive Our Hearts event, it feels like an answer to her prayer.

Dannah is the founder of True Girl which provides tools for moms and grandmothers to disciple their 7–12 year-old girls. On Monday nights, you’ll find Dannah hosting them in her online Bible study. She has authored over twenty-eight books, including Ruth: Becoming a Girl of Loyalty, Lies Girls Believe, and a Bible study for adult women based on the book of Habakkuk. She and her husband, Bob, live on a hobby farm in central Pennsylvania.

About the Guests

Laura Perry

Laura Perry

Laura Perry is a former transgender whose message of transformation through Jesus Christ to restore her feminine identity can relate to those who struggle, those who have transitioned, parents and loved ones, and those in the church who want to reach them. Her story is told in her autobiography, Transgender to Transformed. Above all, her goal is to glorify Christ and tell others how He can overcome any sin or struggle. She encourages others to surrender their lives fully to Jesus and identify as who He created them to be. She also works to expose unbiblical thinking regarding sexuality and aids legislation to protect children from these lies. Laura currently serves on the staff of First Stone Ministries in Oklahoma City.

Mary Kassian

Mary Kassian

Mary Kassian is an award-winning author, an internationally-renowned speaker, and a frequent guest on Revive Our Hearts. She has written more than a dozen books and Bible studies, including Conversation Peace, Girls Gone Wise in a World Gone Wild, and The Right Kind of Strong.

Mary and her husband, Brent, have three sons and six grandchildren and live in Alberta, Canada. The Kassians enjoy biking, hiking, snorkeling, music, board games, mountains, campfires, and their family’s black lab, "The Queen of Sheba."