Daily Program

Wild vs. Wise

Series: Girls Gone Wild with Mary Kassian

Wednesday, August 26 2009

Mary Kassian: So many of our young women today are idle for the kingdom. They are wasting kingdom time. Just their whole purpose is to be out there catching a guy because they think that’s what will fulfill them. There is no guy on the face of the earth that will fulfill your needs—not a one.

Leslie: This if Revive Our Hearts with Nancy Leigh DeMoss for Wednesday, August 26.

Nancy Leigh DeMoss: Women have always faced temptation, and that goes back to Genesis chapter 3, the Garden of Eden. In many ways, I think the temptations that women face today are different than those faced by their mothers or their grandmothers.

Today, my friend Mary Kassian is going to describe some of the challenges young women face. She’s going to point us to a timeless solution. Mary’s been a guest with us before on Revive Our Hearts. She’s the author of the Feminist Mistake. She was a speaker at True Woman ’08, which was the conference that Revive Our Hearts hosted in Chicago last fall.

In fact, at the end of today’s program, I’ll be sharing some exciting news about upcoming True Woman conferences, but first let’s get to Mary who was speaking at one of the break-out sessions at True Woman ’08.

Mary Kassian: So we’re going to going to be talking about some passages of Scripture. I’m going to be doing a contrast between what the Lord teaches us what we should be as women, because He wants us to be feminine, and He wants us to be women. His Word gives us some directions about what that means for our behavior.

Okay, I told you we were going to do some work. We’re going to have a look at several passages. A few of them I will just let you write down the references so you can read through them later. Nancy loves to teach from this passage as well. I do it a little bit differently, but it is a very telling, revealing passage in Proverbs chapter 7 that I would like you to turn to right now.

Now in this passage there is a father talking to his son about how to be smart and how to live wisely. He gives a warning about a certain kind of woman. This passage paints a picture of the wild woman, of the type of woman that the father wants the son to be wary of, the son to avoid this type of woman.

I think as you’ll see, as we unpack this passage, this is the type of woman that our society says we should be. Let’s begin. We’ve got 21 points. I hope your writing hands are healthy and strong.

The first point of difference between a wild woman and a wise woman is perspective—perspective.

Number 1: A wild woman is preoccupied with outward appearance. So either what she looks like, her physical appearance—dressing in a way that’s alluring; dressing in a way that’s attractive, whatever. She spends a lot of time, as Sex in the City girls do, on those designer shoes. Now, I like shoes. We’re girls; we like shoes. But this is just a preoccupation with externals, with external things, with appearances.

Sometimes that can be physical appearances and sometimes that can just be appearances, keeping up appearances, being regarded in the right light. “I want people to think right about me. I want people to think I’m cool, or I’m great. I want people to like me.” Just the preoccupation with that stuff.

When you contrast that in the other passages, and I didn’t read them, I’m just going to pull out words from them, and you can go and read them later. I may decide to read them as we go along, but these are phrases—all of these phrases in these contrasts are pulled from Scripture.

The wise woman knows that physical appearance is secondary to spiritual heart condition, that man looks at the outward appearance, but God really looks at the heart. She concerns herself with her heart. The phrases and those passages that I pulled from those passages are that she’s concerned about the beauty of her “inner self.” She has “noble character.” She is “clothed with strength and dignity” instead of just the latest product fashion. So that’s point number one—perspective.

Number 2: Modesty factor. We see that this woman, the wild woman, is one who flaunts her body like a prostitute, it says, in verse 10. She flaunts her body like a prostitute. Modesty has gone out the window, hasn’t it? Young women are taught, and sometimes older women also . . . You see them dressing, and you’re going, “What are you thinking?”

It’s really interesting. I was telling some people at lunch time that my husband, Brent, and I were asked to go into a local Christian high school and talk to the grade 10-12 students. We gave them a survey. Brent took the guys; I took the girls, and we gave them a survey. We asked them three questions, and these were open-ended questions that they were able to respond to.

  • The first question was, “What bugs you the most about girls?”
  • The second question was, “What bugs you the most about guys?”
  • The third question was, “What do you think could be done to improve male/female relationships?”

So we took the answers of all these grade 10-12 students and compiled them and compared them and looked at them. Do you know what the number one thing that these Christian guys said (and they weren’t all Christians it was a Christian school, but that doesn’t necessarily mean that much always)? The number one thing that bothered them about girls—anybody care to gander a guess? They dressed like sluts.

Now this particular school had a dress code, and so the girls at this particular school were probably dressed a whole lot better than the girls in society at large, and overall these girls were probably dressed more modestly. But the guys, it bothered them to have to fight this battle of their eyes. They didn’t like having to fight it all the time, and the girls who were dressed modestly were the ones that they respected.

I have three sons. Now my sons are almost . . . some of them are grown men; some of them are just on the cusp of being grown. My oldest son is 24; he just married the most beautiful girl in the world. My middle son is ready to turn 22, and my youngest is 19. So I have these three boys in my house, and I remember one day being out with one of my sons, and there was a woman who walked past.

A young girl walked past, and she was dressed very, very seductively. She was spilling out everywhere. She walked past, and it wasn’t just what she was wearing, it was the way she was walking. She kind of gave my son the eye. So I asked him, “What do you think, and what do you feel? Like, what do you think when you see a woman like that?” That’s a pretty daring question. I thought he might avoid it. And he said to me, “Mom, to be perfectly honest, she arouses the male in me, but she does not appeal to the man in me.” “That’s a good answer, sweetheart.”

But it’s true, and we need to watch how we dress. Women now are taught to use their sexuality as power, that if you dress in a way where you can seduce a man, where you can be sexual, it’s powerful. It’s the sexual women who have the power. That’s a lie from the pit of hell. It is.

A woman who is wise dresses modestly. The words in the passages . . . “modest,” “temperate,” “decency.” How about this: the femininity factor. This is almost the opposite.

Now I need to tell you, I was raised in a family; I had five brothers. I was the only girl. As the story goes, my mom was praying and praying for a girl, and after four boys, she was praying and praying for a girl. One night she woke up and an angel whispered in her ear, “If you want a girl, tonight’s the night,” so she woke up my dad . . . and nine months later I was born on Remembrance Day. What’s the point of that?

The point of that is that I grew up in an all-male environment. I was the only girl. My mom wanted desperately to have me be a girlie-girl, and that was the last thing I was going to be. I was not a girlie-girl. These ruffles almost give me palpitations to put these on. Pink is not a word in my wardrobe, and I would just be happy not to wear the makeup and do the cute girlie . . . I never understood it. Girls were scary to me. They scared me.

But the Lord convicted me that He made women, and He made women beautiful, and He wants us to enjoy our femininity (number 3). So many of us run around sloppy, and we don’t care, and we don’t wear makeup, and I’m that way half the time. I need to be very intentional often about being feminine. I have to think, “Okay, my husband has looked at ugly enough days in a row.”

Let me read a verse for you that may startle you. It startled me when I found it. It’s in Deuteronomy 22, verse 5. It says this:

A woman must not wear men’s clothing nor a man wear women’s clothing, for the Lord your God detests anyone who does this.

Wow! That’s kind of startling, isn’t it? That’s very interesting to me, and I think the point of it is not so much, “Oh, women shouldn’t wear pants.” We can’t make hard and fast rules because I think it will look different from culture to culture. But I think the point of it is this: God created us, men and women, and He wants His men to be men and His women to be women. So for some of us who have grown up in this culture, that’s going to take a little bit of work, and a little bit of intentionality. Some are drawn to dress immodestly and to dress in a way that’s just sexual, and others just love that sweatshirt and sweatpants and will not part with it. Right?

So the Lord has to challenge our hearts to correct us and bring us into balance one way or the other—the femininity factor. To begin saying, “Yes, there’s something that is important about femininity.” I’m not a girlie-girl. My dad was a carpenter, and I learned all those skills. I singlehandedly wired our basement, and I can swing a hammer lots better than Brent can, but I’m still a girl. I’m very competent in a lot of things, very independent, but there’s something that God values about femininity, about that softness that He has made a woman to be—femininity factor.

Number 4: Body language. We see here that the wild woman is flirtatious; she’s physically forward and suggestive;she’s shameless. In the passage it uses the word “brazen,” so she’s the one that comes up, grabs the guy, and kisses him. Body language—she’s very flirtatious and suggestive.

The wise woman guards her dignity; she doesn’t resort to deceptive charm. We see words in the passages of Scripture like “purity,” “decency,” “worthy of respect,” “doesn’t use deceptive charm.” Women do have power, just in terms of alluring men. We all know what that’s like to try and do that—to try and be brazen, to try and be forward, to be the one that stands oh so close.

Number 5: Time and energy. The wild woman hangs out in places where she might attract men. She lurks. We’re told in the passage that she’s out in the streets squares; she hangs out at every corner—the public places, the places where she’s going to hang herself out like bait to look and to pursue and to catch men.

The wise woman, on the other hand, is busy with personal mission, not with catching men. She’s busy with good deeds. She does not eat the bread of idleness. Her arms are to the poor, hands to the needy.

I was talking to one of my sons about the woman that he would find and marry. I said, “When you find this woman, she’s there with nothing to do and putting herself in places to find you. This woman is going to be a woman of mission. She will have mission and purpose for the kingdom.”

So many of our young women today are idle for the kingdom; they are wasting kingdom time. Just their whole purpose is being out there is to catch a guy, because they think that’s what’s going to fulfill them. But as we talked about this morning, there is no guy on the face of the earth that is going to fulfill your needs. Not a one. Now if the Lord gifts you with a great relationship, that’s a wonderful and beautiful thing. Brent and I will be married 25 years, and it’s the richest, most beautiful relationship I could dream of from an earthly perspective. But still, he is not the one who ultimately meets my needs. It’s the Lord Jesus Christ who gives me my identity, my surety, my confidence in who I am. I need to be about the Lord’s business, as do all of us.

Women who spend inordinate amounts of time, and I’m just going to talk to you young unmarried women at this point in time, and also women who are single or unattached. What is it with Christian women going out to bars? I don’t get that. You might call me old fashioned; you might say I’m out of touch, but in my mind, you are having that lurking street corner, every corner, out there, hanging out the sign, trolling the waters trying to catch your male kind of mentality that Scripture says you shouldn’t have.

Number 6: Pursuit. I need to make a confession. There was a girl calling my youngest son. This was the day before cell phones, thank God, and she was calling and calling and calling and calling, and I just exercised my parental authority, phoned the phone company and had her number blocked. Before I did that, I tried another tactic. I said, “I will take a message. Yes, he’s sitting right there on the couch, but I will take a message, and he will phone you back.” But girls today are taught that they can be the initiators in a relationship, that it really doesn’t matter. “You should go for what you want. If you see a guy you want, go for him, pursue him, chase him, propose.”

Let me tell you what that does. I have seen it time and time again where women have done that; they’ve gotten the guy; they are the ones who initiated. They phone him; they pursue him; they chase him; they get the wedding running and going; they are in control of the relationship. Five, ten years down the road, they hate him because he’s a couch potato, and because they’re tired of doing everything and running the house and having a man who’s passive or passive aggressive.

The way that you date turns into the way that you relate when you get married. The way you relate to men overall sets patterns for your marriage. It’s important the patterns you establish and how you relate, and we are told in Scripture that the woman, the wild woman, is the woman who comes out, who takes hold of him, the woman who looks for him and preys upon him.

Whereas, the wise woman is the woman who wins him over with pure, holy behavior; she won over her husband. Sarah regarded Abraham as master. In other words, there’s a reverence and a purity, and a “I’m not going to go out and get, I’m going to be a prize worth getting. I’m going to be a woman of God, and I am worth pursuing,” because God says so, not because I say so.

The holiness and the relationship and the whole picture of Christ pursuing His church, remember? If we’re talking about male and female as being a paradigm, as being a mini-picture for us of the relationship between Christ and the church, and furthermore, an inter-Trinitarian relationship, we learn a lot about God because male and female were created in His image.

If that’s the case, then this stuff matters. It matters, and some of you women are pursuers of your husband in the sense that you are naggers of your husband. It’s like Chinese water torture you are: drip, drip, drip, drip, drip. No wonder he doesn’t hear you anymore.

Godly women know how to have that sweet, gentle, spirit, that purity and that holiness that says, “I trust God. I don’t have to go and pursue and be in charge. God is in charge, and I can trust myself to Him.”

Nancy: We’ve been listening to the first part of a message that Mary Kassian delivered at True Woman ’08. That’s the conference that Revive Our Hearts hosted in Chicago last fall. It was an amazing thing to see thousands of women come to that conference from 48 different states and 6 different countries drawn by one common thing. That wanted to see God cultivate in their lives the kinds of qualities that Mary just described: gentleness, purity, and holiness.

If you want those words to describe you, then I’d like to encourage you to get a copy of the book called, Becoming God’s True Woman. Mary Kassian and I both contributed chapters in that book, along with other speakers like: Carolyn Mahaney, Susan Hunt, Dorothy Patterson, and my friend, Bunny Wilson. This book will show you how to become the woman God created you to be—a woman of true beauty and godly influence.

Today we want to make this book available to you. We’ll send it as our way of saying thank you when you send a donation of any amount to Revive Our Hearts. Just call us at 1-800-569-5959, or donate at our website, ReviveOurHearts.com, and be sure to ask for a copy of Becoming God’s True Woman when you send your donation.

Now, that web address, ReviveOurHearts.com, is where you’ll also find information about True Woman ’10. At the beginning of the program I said I had information about upcoming True Woman conferences. I want to let you know that Revive Our Hearts is bringing the True Woman conference to three cities next year. That will be: Chattanooga, Indianapolis, and Fort Worth. Registration has just opened this month.

The first True Woman conference sold out months in advance, so I want to encourage you to check your calendar and plan ahead to attend one of these three conferences next year. To get more information about the True Woman ’10 conferences, or to learn how you can be a part of the True Woman Movement, just go to ReviveOurHearts.com.

The Bible says that as women we are to cultivate a gentle and quiet spirit. You might wonder, is that really possible today? Mary Kassian is going to address that question when she returns tomorrow, right here on Revive Our Hearts.

Revive Our Hearts with Nancy Leigh DeMoss is an outreach of Life Action Ministries.

 

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"WOW! I am so amazed at the awesome wisdom coming out from Mary. To think that we sometimes let wildness run through us because we are being 'conventional' or whatever you would like to call it. I mean, we tend to look at the advice of our parents as old fashioned but it saves us from the pit. In Africa, where I am writing from, we have values and cultures that, as I have begun to realise now, must have been taken from the book of Proverbs. Its such a blessing to have this website and I know a lot of women out there are being touched in a supernatural way. I for one have had many areas of my life changed because of the information I am downloading and uploading into my heart. Thank you so much especially for today's eye opening subject; sometimes because of how the world trends are changing, there is a thin line between being the wild woman and being the wise one."

Esnath (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 6:25 AM)

"Wow....I was quite convicted by Mary today. What a powerful contrast. I'm really looking forward to hearing tomorrow. I plan on listening to this again today. I want the Lord to burn it into my heart.

God bless, ROH!"

Alison (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 8:58 AM)

"How true...I struggle to guide my gurls in loving themselves, but the world says different, but how much we need to be reminded of this......that only Christ can fulfill, as woman and daughters of the Father, we are created in his image!"

Marlene (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 9:52 AM)

"I felt that these statements were very key:It’s the Lord Jesus Christ who gives me my identity, my surety, my confidence in who I am.
The wise woman is the woman who wins him over with pure, holy behavior; she won over her husband. Sarah regarded Abraham as master. In other words, there’s a reverence and a purity, and a “I’m not going to go out and get, I’m going to be a prize worth getting. I’m going to be a woman of God, and I am worth pursuing,” because God says so.
And I was very impressed with what her son stated:“Mom, to be perfectly honest, she arouses the male in me, but she does not appeal to the man in me.”"

Carol (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 11:01 AM)

"This was wonderful and very much needed in today's society. I just wonder about her comment that if we don't put make-up on we're ugly. I believe that is one of the enemy's biggest lies. Did God not create us beautiful to begin with? Why do we have to paint ourselves to be considered beautiful?"

Mary (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 11:34 AM)

"As always, Nancy, thank you so much for this teaching! Every church needs to teach and mentor women and young women - but everyone is so afraid to offend and/or run them off. While we protecting the women who dress provocatively by NOT telling them their clothing is making their brothers in Christ struggle, we are actually putting them in future danger. And our sons and husbands are forced to struggle with the distraction week after week. Where is the protection for the guys? Their purity is just as important.
I also disagree with the ugly without makeup idea. The WORLD says to paint your face, bleach your hair, tan your skin, put on fake nails, get a cool tattoo - culture has decided that is beautiful - remember, God's idea of female beauty was Eve - and she had no highlights, lipstick or high-heels!"

Jenna (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 11:57 AM)

"Awesome show - thank you for the scripture from Deuteronomy 22:5. You must be so proud of your sons, "arouses the male in me, but she does not appeal to the man in me" a young man after God's heart. Thank you for sharing"

Marsha (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM)

"Thank you so much for this much-needed message. My own sister is struggling with these exact issues right now, and this has encouraged me all the more to be modest and beautiful from the inside out to be a good example to her. It troubles me so to know that she intentionally wants strange men lusting over her. Also, I have 3 young sons, so this message opened my eyes to the way a "wild woman" can affect men...definitely things to consider!"

Alexis (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 12:22 PM)

"My life is a living example of what Mary K. talked aobut having "pursued the man," pretty much been the initiator for everything to do with our relationship, got married to him, and now hate him for being a couch potato. I'm so tired of "having to do it all!"

The question is what to do now? My own wisdom says to say "Oops. I blew it,. Scratch this marriage and start over new. Even singleness was way better than this."

But look at where my own wisdom has got me up till now?

I'm finally in counseling with a godly counselor, and my husband said he'd eventually go too. Please pray for me/ us that our dynamic will change -- because I've just about had it with being in a marriage "alone.""

Kim (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 1:24 PM)

"Thank you very much for relevant teaching.There is one issue that I did not see you address: worldliness as exhibited by coarse language and choices of music and movies. Exampe-man of my Christian sisters (most young mothers) seemingly think nothing of using all of the common "euphemistic" f-words that are so endemic today, not only in speech but in writing on Facebook! I know they love Jesus but often seem very self-centered and thoughtless. While we couldn't find anyone to run a fundraiser for our local pregnancy crisis center, these women make the rounds of centers to get "free" sonograms simply because they want to know see their baby and their insurance doesn't cover it. These behaviors are so common that as an older woman, I am struggling a bit and praying right now for how to lovingly address these issues with them without losing their trust and openness. Thanks again for your teaching which I always value for how it challenges me."

Judy (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 1:58 PM)

"Thank you so much for your words of wisdom! Your words really hit home with me! I shared this with my mother & sister."

Jenny (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 2:08 PM)

"I am absolutely excited about being the woman of god who endues gentleness, purity and holiness. I will be able to do it with this type of teaching that explains the scriptures in a way that I understand and recieve. I submit myself to being the wise woman because she is pleasing to God. And I speak in Jesus Name, that I am the wise woman that pleases God. I look forward to the rest of this teaching as I am excited to put God first and be busy about his kingdom. Thank you so much for this teaching."

Jackie (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 5:04 PM)

"I needed to hear this today. I have been struggling because my husband has left me for another woman. I want to win him back and today's program reminded me that I want to win him back with a sweet gentle and spirit filled with purity and holiness and not that of a seductress"

Kelly (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 6:31 PM)

"I divorced 4 years ago and wish we were still together. I have been dating a man I've know for 30 years and wanted to marry 30 years ago. He has never been married. I am 48 and he is 58. After my divorce, I have been so lonely. I know I have God with me. I just want to be loved by my husband. He was sexually abused as a child and I didn't know it when we married. My ex husband and I didn't sleep together for 10 years after his affair plus 6 weeks after the marriage. I have been lonely for 25 years. Since I have been dating my old boyfriend, hearing today's program makes me so ashamed because I have used my appearance and sexually to keep my boyfriend who is not a Christian. I have listened to today's lesson and I am going to stop wanting to be loved so bad, by using sex to keep my boyfriend. I have looked for the wrong things. I am a Christian, good ex wife, mother, friend to others and I don't need to sell myself just to be loved. I know God is taking my hurt and he is teaching me, I am worthy of finding a Christian man who loves me for me and not the sexual side of our relationship. I am worth more than what I am getting from my boyfriend. If you are married and thinking of getting a divorce because ya'll have a few problems or like me don't sleep together, go find a Christian counselor to help save your marriage. Dating is not fun and if you have children, they need both parents living together to make a family. By the grace of God I have two children. It is more important to have a family then to be 48 years old and by yourself looking for someone to love you. Children need both parents and not a mom or dad out dating, plus looking for love in all the wrong places.

Today's lesson hit home with me. God is using me to learn from my mistakes to help others not do what i have done. College girls or mothers both need to listen and learn from today. One day, I want to take my lessons and help newly divorced woman learn how to be strong and not go nuts after a divorce. It is empty.
God bless us all."

Cynthia (on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 at 10:58 PM)

"I am so frustrated.... I am dating a guy and I feel like he can not identify the seductive spirit in other women... When a "flashy" lady comes around him, with a low cut shirt and flirtious.... its like my boyfriend doesnt identify what it is he is being lured into. He flirts and he thinks he is "just playing around" or that they are "just friends..." but this lady isnt "just friends" with me... or with other women in the way she is with men... I dont know how to approach him about this because he is a Godseeking man, involved in ministry and has lots os accountablity... however, whenever we get around certain women (in the chruch, too!) he is lured into her and I cants stand IT!!! It drives me nuts! Why doesnt he know better?????? rnrnI havent said anything yet about this particular lady because I am trying to approach the situation with grace and a soft voice... not with anger. I have been praying about it and I do not know how to approach him. I care about him a lot, and he is a great match in every way except for this area.... also, we have been dating for a while and we talk about marriage and things like that... so what do i do???? rnrnDoes this mean he wont be loyal to me in marriage? Is that a sign of unfaithfulness???rnrnhelp!"

Michelle (on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 10:24 AM)

"Thank you for this message, it is a real eye opener."

Barbara (on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 11:05 AM)

admin signature"Kim,

I commend you for seeking godly counsel and desiring to operate with God's wisdom rather than your own. No matter how difficult your marriage, I encourage you to continue working toward improvement. Although you may have tried some of these resources, in case you haven't, let me suggest a few things you might find helpful:

The 30-Day Husband Encouragement Challenge is a down-loadable resource available on this website by clicking on the 30-Day Challenges link under the "GROW" tab on the left side of this web page.

This month on the True Woman website, the focus has been on marriage and we've posted several articles that you may find helpful. I encourage you to check the website by clicking on the "true woman" link on the left hand side of this web page. At the truewoman.com homepage, click on the blog tab and archives link to see the articles posted this month.

You might also read the comment I posted to "Julie" which contains some thoughts on loving confrontation of a husband's sinful actions. You can find it posted on the True Woman website on 8.18.09 under the title: "Marriage Killer #3: Vain Imaginations."

Or follow this link to the article:

http://www.truewoman.com/?id=759

Mary Kassian has also written several excellent articles on the True Woman website which you might find helpful.

Finally, I hope you and your husband are involved in a biblical church which can offer support and encouragement. Perhaps you could approach a mature, godly couple who would be willing to spend some time with the two of you and fill a modeling role for your marriage.

Let me encourage you by closing with a verse which a friend of mine clung to after her husband's adultery. Their marriage experienced a dramatic restoration as a result of walking in the wisdom of God and today they live in the blessings of God's faithful work in their marriage.

"Behold, I will do something new, now it will spring forth; will you not be aware of it? I will even make a roadway in the wilderness, rivers in the desert." Isaiah 43:19

The team at Revive Our Hearts is praying for you. May you see the fruit of God's faithfulness at work in your life."

Kimberly Wagner (on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 1:05 PM)

admin signature"Cynthia,

Thank you for encouraging women to work on their marriages rather than choosing divorce when things are difficult.

I am grieved by the pain you've experienced. Loneliness in a marriage is one of life's greatest heart-aches. I want to encourage you, however to look only to Christ to fill that loneliness. No man, husband, or boyfriend, can fill those empty places. Christ will be your sufficiency if you will allow Him to fill that role.

I encourage you to follow the link to this article on the True Woman website by Paula Hendricks.

http://www.truewoman.com/?id=792

She has some great insight on this issue.

I pray you will walk in the purity, holiness and wisdom of God."

Kimberly Wagner (on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 1:29 PM)

admin signature"Michelle,

Sadly, "flirting" has become a very common, yet impure, practice. Although many might disagree, flirtation is a subtle form of defrauding.

The definition of "defrauding" is: to take something (that doesn't belong to you) by fraud.

Our culture takes a very relaxed approach when it comes to dating and premarital relationships. Even casual conversations between men and women who are only acquaintances are often filled with flirtatious banter. Flirtation's nature is brief, shallow, filled with empty promises and affection without commitment.

Faithfulness in marriage begins years before the wedding vows. Faithfulness to your mate means that you preserve and protect your intimate emotions, affections, and physical purity for your future spouse.

If your boyfriend is a "Godseeking man" as you stated, he will surely want to hear your concerns on this issue, if shared in humility and graciousness. Perhaps ask him if the two of you could listen to this message together and then discuss the content.

You asked "Why doesn't he know better?" sadly, he is probably reacting in a fairly typical manner. But as believers, God has called us to a higher standard of conduct.

You might want to check out this book and possibly he would be willing to read it as well:

"Meet Mr. Smith: Revolutionize the Way You Think About Sex, Purity, and Romance" by Eric Ludy

Hope this helps!"

Kimberly Wagner (on Thursday, August 27, 2009 at 3:21 PM)

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