Daily Program

Childbearing

Series: Embracing God's Gift of Children

Wednesday, August 28 2002

Leslie Basham:

If you're a mom, you know how challenging it can be to pour yourself into the next generation. But when we feel like we've given all that we can give, God is ready to fill us up with Himself. Today, we'll hear from a woman who's learned that firsthand, as a mother of eight children. Here's Nancy to introduce our guest.

Nancy Leigh DeMoss:

We've been talking this week with one of my very special friends, a dear prayer partner. Her name is Holly Elliff. Holly is a pastor's wife. She and Bill are the parents of eight children. And we've been talking this week about a difficult and controversial subject, but we believe such an important one--and that is this whole matter of childbearing. Holly, welcome back to Revive Our Hearts.

Holly Elliff:

Nancy Leigh DeMoss:

You shared with us yesterday how through a process (of) a period of months, of really digging into the Scripture with an open heart, you came to what for you was an inescapable conclusion that children were a blessing and a gift, to be received from the Lord. And that the Lord wanted you and Bill to release to Him total control of this area of your lives. At that point, you felt that that meant you might be pregnant every nine months, that you might have as you said yesterday, a million children. What happened when you began to share with others, your parents, friends? Did they think you had lost your mind when you told them the conclusion you had come to?

Holly Elliff:

Choosing to have many children or to allow God to give you whatever children He desires you to have is not necessarily something you want to do if you want to be "free," if you want to have lots of naps in the afternoon, if you want to have an agenda that is simple. Having a house full of children is not simple and it is not easy and...

Nancy Leigh DeMoss:

Holly Elliff:

I wanted to be involved in ministry. And Billy's mother, who is a very wise woman, one day said to me, "Holly, I know this is frustrating right now, but if you will just raise the children God gives you in a biblical, godly way...if you can raise godly children, you will have a platform for ministry someday. Right now may not be the time, but if you'll wait, God will give you that platform. And you will have something to say because you've been there and you have done that."

Nancy Leigh DeMoss:

Holly Elliff:

As I mentioned a minute ago, I remember one night saying to the Lord, "I just don't think this is possible," and God reminding me that in His Word He promises me that He is sufficient for everything that I might encounter in my life. And that includes the children that He has chosen to give me. And what I found was that I really did not need as much time for myself as I thought, that I could learn to have a quiet heart even in the midst of chaos, that I could hear from God while I was sorting laundry or picking up children's toys or schoolbooks late at night.

The quiet moments became very valuable to me. And even sitting up late at night, nursing a baby or rocking a child who had had a nightmare, those times became very precious and times when God's Spirit just really ministered to me, not because I had time to go spend hours in Bible study; but because I was, I believe, in the center of His will accomplishing part of what He had called me to do.

It was not at all the picture that I had in my head of what it would be like to have time to myself, of what it would be like to be in control of my own life. But in yielding to what God called us to, I found that even in the midst of things I would not ever have planned for my own life, God did prove Himself sufficient. And more and more, my children became a tool that revealed what was in my heart, that revealed the need in my own life to cry out to God. I tell women all the time, "If I'd have had two children, I was so hardheaded and stubborn that I would have walked around all the time saying, 'I can handle this!'"

Nancy Leigh DeMoss:

Holly Elliff:

Nancy Leigh DeMoss:

I think about Paul saying to Timothy in 1 Timothy, chapter 5, that the younger widows he's speaking of particularly, were to marry, to bear children, to keep house (v. 14). He's talking about not just widows, but the role and the calling of women--that a huge part of their purpose in life is to be helpers to their husbands and bearers and nurturers of children. In fact, it goes so far as to say--in a passage that admittedly is complex--but in chapter 2 of 1 Timothy (v.15) that women, in some sense, are saved through childbearing.

Now, we know with the rest of Scripture he is not talking about their eternal salvation. But in that same passage, he talks about Timothy being saved through preaching. And I think what he's saying is that Timothy's God-given role was to be a preacher. And that he would demonstrate his salvation and his perseverance in his faith through doing what God had called him to do. And that likewise, women generally are called by God to give birth to children; to rear up children who have a heart for God and that in so doing, they demonstrate their genuineness of their profession of faith...that they demonstrate that they are committed and submitted to God's will and plan for their lives.

And Holly, I guess what concerns me is that so many women today are making choices that they are making for some of the reasons that you described which really do, in many cases, come back to, "What do I want? What's best for me?" Reasons that are selfish rather than saying, "Why did God put me here on this earth? What was God's purpose in creating me and how can I best fulfill that purpose?"

You know, as you read through the Old Testament, it's so exciting to see that God is the giver of life, He's the creator of life. And that's a big part of God's means of taking the redemptive story and Gospel to the world, is through the willingness of godly parents to have a godly seed...to raise up children who will take the Gospel to the world.

We've heard it said in one of the objections, and we'll pick up on some more of these tomorrow, but one of the concerns is that: "This world is so violent, it's so evil. And I don't want to bring children into this kind of a world." And there's an understandable fear that I think many mothers have as they look at the world around us today. But the challenge, I think for women of God, is to not give into that fear but to accept this calling: to bring forth children into the world and to trust that God is going to use those children to be a light, to be salt, to be "difference makers," and to be the ones who deal with the issues facing our world and take the light of Christ's Gospel into the world.

So really--(for) the problems we're concerned about in part--God's way of addressing those issues is to say, "Women are you willing, and couples are you willing, to bring forth children into this world who will be part of God's solution, part of God's means of taking the Gospel into this very dark world?"

Leslie Basham:

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Holly, it's been interesting to me to hear you say a couple of times over the last few minutes that you were doing "what God called you to do." And you're talking here about the bearing and nurturing of life. I so appreciate hearing that perspective, because I think so many women in our culture have lost sight of the biblical viewpoint: that God has given to women a distinctive calling to be bearers and nurturers of life.
Oh, somebody said to me, "They're not sandpaper, they're sandblasters," and I really believe that's true. I've got four boys and four girls and I get stretched in about every way I could possibly get stretched. There is somebody who pushes every button I have. But what that always reveals is the need in my own life for something beyond myself--that there is always a need for God to work His life out through me as He lives out His Spirit in me.
I've heard it said that children are kind of God's heavenly sandpaper.
I have found that that's been true. Not perhaps the platform I would have chosen for myself at 20, because my goals were so different. But what I have found is that now the life message that I have, has been worked into my life through the reality of living that message. I find that when I sit down with women, because I have eight children they know that I know what they experience. They know that I know what it's like to be tired and to struggle with relinquishing what I think I need because I have so many demands in my home.
Have you found that that's been true?
Well, I'll tell you what I have found--and it has really been an amazing thing--is that somewhere in there (about my fourth--fifth child) saying to the Lord one night, "God, I really don't know that I can do this. This is so hard. I am so tired. I never accomplish enough. No matter what I do all day, nothing is ever finished." And being so frustrated.
But, Holly, help the woman who says, "We've already got four children, they're ages six and under. I have no time of my own. And besides that, there is no way I could possibly handle one more child. I don't have the energy for it. I just couldn't do that."
Well, you know, Billy and I really did not think of ourselves as radicals. We were pretty traditional people. God just simply took us to the place where this became an issue in our life. As we relinquished control of that area, we did receive some interesting reactions. I remember vividly telling my mother that I was pregnant with my fifth child--and she cried. Now somewhere between number five and number eight, (actually ten pregnancies total) somewhere in there she just decided we were kind of crazy anyway and she was not going to worry about it anymore and if I wanted...she actually said to me one time, "If you really want to shorten your life by doing this, I certainly am not going to stop you." And initially that was her concern.
You've been telling us something of your story, and how after the birth of your fourth child--thinking that at that point your quiver was probably going to be full--how the Lord challenged you to go to the Word and evaluate based on the Scripture (not based on the culture around you) why it was that you'd come to that conclusion. And what it was that was the Lord's viewpoint on children and on childbearing, and on these practical issues of life.
Thanks.
Raising kids can be exhausting. Perhaps one reason God gives us children is so we'll turn to Him for strength. This is Revive Our Hearts with Nancy Leigh DeMoss. It's Wednesday, August 28.

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